I use an SSL mixing desk (matrix) which uses the IP midi protocol to communicate - do you think CopperLan will clash with IP midi at all ?
Not at all! CopperLan is using its own Ethernet protocol (reconize by IEEE). There is absolutely no interaction between CopperLan and any other protocol using the same physical network.
You just have to ensure that the "MIDI port automatic handling by CopperLan" is disabled on the computer. It is an option available from the CopperLan Manager "Editor" tab > MIDI device related to the computer > MIDI Settings > "MIDI port auto-handling".
Hello, What is the difference between CopperLan & RTP-MIDI?
Well! There are many differences between CopperLan and RTP-MIDI.
RTP-MIDI is a guideline to transport standard MIDI over UDP or TCP.
CopperLan is a complete framework comprising a network transport definition, a high-level protocol (which happens to cover MIDI capability), drivers, virtual network implementations (to serve multiple applications at each physical connection), and a set of APIs ready to talk with application code.
Note: an other transport protocole called IEEE-1722 AVB exist also! It should be noted that the MMA (MIDI Manufacturer Association) supports two (RTP-MIDI & AVB) incompatible protocols?
CopperLan and RTPMIDI can work together?
Work in symbiose, no, they are totally incompatibles, but you can connect the MIDI flux between them, like a bridge (with your computer, you assign the RTP-MIDI port to a VMIDI or VMIDI to RTP-MIDI port) .
MIDI over Wireless, is reliable?
There are at least 6 different manufacturers of wireless MIDI adapters, and most of them use some sort of proprietary scheme (as opposed to "Wi-Fi"), so they don't talk to routers or networks, they only talk to each other. (I can get you the list if you need it.)
That said, there are also known means to send MIDI via Wi-Fi, including the way Missing Link does it, which is to send MIDI data encapsulated as OSC data in Wifi packets.
As others have said, using Wi-Fi (which is just one kind of Wireless) for MIDI is tricky because there is considerable error checking and potential for delays which would be perceived as "jitter". But in the right conditions... such as a studio where there is little chance of interference from other data, Wi-Fi MIDI might work well.
As you may know, Apple supports "Network MIDI", meaning any MIDI app can use any current network connection to send/receive MIDI, and that includes Wifi connections. Apple uses something called RTP for this. But again, performance over any Wifi connection may vary.
Hi I just bought 2 alyseum AL-22, i need it to send midi informations on a long distance.
I have the band on stage using midi controlers and the computers backstage running ableton live.
We dont want the computers on stage... so i got 2 AL-22 units linked with a Cat6 RJ45 cable.
I thought i would be plug and play ,but i cant get it to work as a simple virtual cable. i m not an expert, but i need to have it work asap, the first show is in a few days, i didnt have much time to do tests, what do i need to do to use the al-22 as a simple virtual midi cable ?
On the first al-22 one midi controler on the midi in 1 and on the second al-22 ableton pluged on midi out 1 on the al-22, do i really need to use the copperlan manager software ? The 2 al-22 units are connected together via ethernet cable.
Then pc and controler are plugged to al-22 via midi cables...
AL-22 are located on the same network, perfect. but you have to patch MIDI... this part of the job can't be "plug&play" since the material can't predict your needs ;-)
just plug a PC or a Mac on the same network (you need an Ethernet switch for this operation, the switch can be removed - letting the two AL-22 alone on the network - once the patching is done), and use the CopperLan Manager's "Connect" tab to bind virtual MIDI cable between the first AL-22 port 1 and the second AL-22 port 1.
you can rename the AL-22 to identify them surely on the network, but if you don't have time to familiarize with CopperLan, I suggest you do cross connection between the two AL-22 ( do you see what I mean?)
However, and especially if you don't have a switch, you can do the job with only one Al-22. When you install CopperLan on a PC or a Mac, it creates a set of virtual MIDI ports. So you can get the AL-22 port 1 connected directly to the computer running Ableton. Just run the CopperLan Manager, go to Connect tab, create a virtual MIDI cable between from AL-22 port 1 and select the target from the MIDI device ( should be stamped with the computer's name ) - virtual MIDI 1. and finally, configure Ableton to use this CopperLan VMIDI 1 port as input. it should be done really easy!